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《签证十谈》之五:理直气壮(学习目的)

[日期:2006-03-24] 来源:ChaseDream论坛 作者:ChaseDream [字体: ]

如果你把签证看得比读书本身还重要,那么签证官也会得出同样的结论,去美国才是你最主要的目的。

经常会有网友问我,A学校给了我多少多少奖学金,而B学校什么都没给我,那为了容易签证,我是不是就去A学校呢?还有很多身边真实的例子,第一次去签,拿了A学校去签,没有奖,因为资金不足,被拒了。第二次痛定思痛,换了一所名气差得很远,但是有丰厚奖学金的学校,心想这回不会被拒了吧!结果以移民倾向被拒。回来后百思不得其解。

如果这个学校就是你想读的,也和你的专业背景,职业发展计划非常符合,那么有奖学金会减轻你的贷款压力,会降低你的移民倾向,弥补资金不足,对签证本身是非常有利的。

然而,如果这个学校根本不是你想读的,或者不是你情愿去读的,只是为了容易签证(注意,这里不是为了容易付学费),才选择这个学校,那就另当别论了。

这里想特别提醒CDer注意,我们要想说服签证官之前,必须要先说服自己,我们去美国的目的是为了读书,是为了自己将来的大好前程,是为了把握将来在中国的发展机会,而不是为了去美国而去美国,不是为了留在那里不回来。有奖学金不意味着你的签证就能通过,你还要说服签证官你去美国的目的是学习,你还要说服签证官,你最终是要回中国的。而没有奖学金并不意味着你通不过,大批的CDer都是去读MBA或者商科Master的,不仅学费昂贵,拿奖学金的机会也是少而又少,可是我们的通过率却并不低。如果你选择学校的时候,只把有奖学金作为重要的指标来考虑,那么你的动机不纯已经昭昭然了。签证官也就会得出同样的结论,你并不在乎在哪个学校读书,不在乎学什么,而只在乎通过签证,去美国才是你的主要目的。

特别提醒,当你换学校,换专业,换program时,要特别清楚地考虑这一点,说明你对这个小学校,或者这个与自己之前所学专业不太相关的program是多么充分的了解,说明你的选择是为了将来更好的职业发展,而不仅仅是因为他们有充足的奖学金,不仅仅因为有奖你才能付得起自己的学费生活费。再说句题外话,签证只是我们人生旅程的一小部分,这次不行还可以下次再去签,只要你自己不放弃,没有永远过不去的签证,但是你选择一个错误的学校,错误的专业,对你的影响就不只是一年,两年,甚至是一生。

puma_eagle签经,完整签经请见:
https://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=27&ID=7288&page=53

注:文中划横线的为子溪点评,未划线部分为puma自己的插注。

M: Good afternoon, Sir(届时已经等到了12:30) (VO可能这个时候有些着急吃饭,不太耐烦
V: en..hum…
M: Here is my Card (拿到了心爱的酒红色, 还不错)

V: So, you are going to *** University?
M: Yes, to pursue my MBA education, to obtain more sophisticated....

V: (Took a look at my I-20 and calculated) Hum… You are going to spend *** in two years! (打断puma,不耐烦的表现,实际上他已经看到了puma的症结,两年的MBA学费不是个小数目
M: (Smile) Right, It is a related big investment, but I think it worth, because …
(其实,我认为在这个时候这个VO就已经决定据我了,剩下的问题都是为他的决定找理由,而且,在我据理力争和陈述的时候,他就一直在摇头,一副不信任的样子,几次都准备举起那个该死的章子,而且在后来已经说出了”I am sorry that…” 此为后话,暂且按下不表)

V: What's your current Job? (此VO说话声音很小,很难听清楚,可能是届时中午,还没有吃饭吧)((想进一步求证他是出不起这笔钱的,或者说虽然出得起,也是倾家荡产的大投资。) (想验证puma的资金来源
M: (声音太小,我听错了,Faint), I will ***.

V: I am asking you what are you doing now. Okay, so what will you do with your MBA degree? (极度不耐烦,但是仍然对puma的回答有所警觉,感到puma这么想说归国计划,是不是归国计划也有问题
M: Oh, I apologize, I will…. In fact, I have discussed this with my ex-bosses and my career advisors who are all executive level managers in this industry, and they all support my plan that I will have a bright future if I can combine the MBA study from *** University with my previous working experience…(归国计划空泛不具体,除了提到ex-bosses和career advisors算具体了些

V: (shaking head) (对回答不满意)
M: (不理他,继续!) The idea of pursuing the MBA program was initially aspired by the story of my Ex-manager, who has just returned from the United stated with her **(Top 5) MBA degree and …. (回答不错)

V: What more did your advisors say?
M: (刚张嘴)….

V: Now let’s back to what’s your current job now? (不太想在归国计划纠缠了,还是想解决刚才资金不足的怀疑
M: I am ***

V: How Long?
M: ***
(注意,这个时候第一个圈套来了)

V: so how much is your current salary? (直入正题
M: My total income of salary and bonus and….

V: I only ask you about your salary! (又表现出不耐烦,也是想压一压puma,看看他反映
M: ***

V: And what did you do before that? (对于这份工作的收入没什么可说的,想验证以前工作的收入如何
M: ***

V: Salary?
M:***

V: How Long?
M: ***

V: it is good in China, why are you still want to go to study? (显然觉得收入还不错
M: Because…

V: (在草稿纸上计算)However, it is not enough for you to support your study in the US for two years.
M: beside the salary…(在这中间,VO一直就在打断我的话,根本不听我说完,可惜,他在这中间大概是太想据我了,犯了个错误,所以,对后面的事情反而有所转机,大概是想弥补吧

V: So, you have only worked for * years, and you are going to invest such a big money into study. If you can’t find such a good job when you come back, I am afraid that you will in deep water. I am sorry that….. (很高兴自己算出来,感到puma的资金来源不够支付学费,想尽快结束这场interview,回去吃饭
M: (我毫不犹豫,马上打断!)Excuse me, sir, but I am afraid that you have made a mistake and I suggest you take a careful look at my forms, I have been working for more than & years, not only * years. I also worked for ** for ** years and && for $$ years before that, you just didn't finish listen to me just now. (puma始终保持镇定,在最后关头仍然一字没漏签证官的每句花,并果断地打断。虽然没看到他当时情形,从他自己的备注可以清楚看出他表现出来的愤怒与不满,言辞也很激烈。特别是最后一句话,对于签证官不停地打断自己陈述给了有力的还击!

V: (长大了嘴巴,哼哼了两声, 有点害羞),突然说道:So you have changed your job many times, it is not so good that… (其实是想挽回面子, 强词夺理) (大大出乎意料,没想到这个中国人并不太柔顺。签证官后面一句话确实有些强词夺理,感到下不来台阶儿。)
M: 我毫不示弱,马上应到(In fact, my income doubled every time I changed my Job!

V: (还在强词夺理,而且有点生气被抓到把柄,有点老羞成怒): So all you should do is just changed your job again and again, and you salary will be doubled and doubled again, and you will be…(同意作者自己的点评,虽然puma是情急之中不得以的反击,但确实让签证官很难堪
M: (我马上把话题引开) That’s why I choose to study right now, because I feel I am stunned on my career progress, and I feel a little frustrated so that I need more sophisticated managerial….

V: (Impatient) no No NO…
M: That's why I choose this university over the other two offers with even full tuition scholarship.. (这是一非常好的明确学习目的的回答,我去读书不是因为钱,不是因为想去美国,而是为了我将来的职业发展

V: (他又听错了,翻到我的I-20,用笔敲着上面说)Scholarship? I didn’t see any scholarship. (真是不在状态,屡犯错误。
M: 我很耐心地解释: Sure this school didn’t offer me any scholarship, I meant that there are other two schools offered me scholarship, one is full tuition waiver and the other is 40% tuition waiver for two years.

V: which schools? (puma这次表现非常好,上次是不得以,才给予痛击,否则不能挽回大局,这回却要留些情面,让已经不堪的签证官下台阶儿)
M: ** University and ** University, both are also top MBA programs.

V: Do you have the prove materials of these scholarships you mentioned? (显然很满意这个学习目的的回答,想进一步求证
M: (push over the documents), Sure, you can find it on page 3 and page 4.

V: (很仔细地看着第二页,但是那个学校的Admission和Scholarship是分成两张纸的) I can’t see any scholarship information here.
M: (still patient) it is on the next page, they are separated on two pages.

V: hum…. (Look carefully at the two pages containing scholarship information,后面还有我准备的各个MBA的排名情况,并用High lighter 把所有录取我的学校标出来了
M: 趁机说道: I chose this school over those two with financial support means two things, first, I do think it is worthy investment, and second, my purpose for the VISA is only for study, otherwise, I will choose the one with full tuition waiver for any other reasons…(趁机明确阐述了自己是为了读书职业发展的原因,而不是为了去美国

V: (还在考虑我的学费问题,没转过弯来) You should take the offer, full tuition waiver…
M: I still insist on my decision, just as I choose **University rather than Tsinghua when I entered the undergraduate university…

V: (又听错了,感觉抓到了我的小辫子)跳起来说”Tsinghua? You said Tstinghua? But on your I-20…
M: (这次我是真的没有耐心了, 我一字一顿地说) I~ Chose ~** University~ Rather~ Than ~Tsinghua~because this university is the best in this field, though my scoore can garuntee me the admission of Tsinghua! (这个难堪给得没太大必要,反而又增加了签证的波折

V:….
M: (乘胜追击), My score was the highest in my grade and my student ID was ended with 01, which meant that I enter the university with the highest academic performance, do you want to take a look at my transcriptions? (实际上这个回答没太大意义,VO也不想看puma到底有多优秀,这次给VO的难堪没太大必要。

V: (这时的气势已经完全被我压倒,默然无语)
M: (开始询询诱导): This University only admitted * from ** applications this year, it is really a good chance for me to get a better career that I should cherish. I have a supporting letter from Mr. **, who is … would you kindly take a look at it? (这个supporting letter又开始节外生支了,关于supporting letter的阐述请见第七谈

V: (木然拿过,看了看,突然两眼放光)Is this man a Chinese? Or is he an American?
M: (知道他又以为有机会了,但是还是实话实说)He is an American working in China now. (这个回答非常妙,美国人在中国

V: so, what's does this matter your situation?
M: (予以无情的打击)First, his letter represented ***that …. Second, As you can see, such a successful business man also come to China for his future career…. (又给一次难堪

V: I see…. (然后开始语无伦次) but… I still.. I am …hum…(这个VO可能因为不在状态,确实被打蒙了,但是也下不来台阶儿
M: (这个时候,我知道他的决心已经动摇了, 我采取了古人的兵法”一张一弛,文武之道也”) Sir, I would be very, very appreciative if you could seriously consider the all facts that I presented and stand in my position to think about future career, why I gave up the full tuition waiver, why I chose to invest two years and such a big amount of money into my education…(这里puma意识到了,表现不错,把和VO的敌对状态拉回来了

V: Silence…
M: Silence…

V: Okay, please give me your financial supporting documents (基本已经投降了)
M: (知道有戏了,飞快地塞进去)Here you are, sir.(然后一条一条解释)

V: (还在最后负隅顽抗, 指着我最前面一个Contract 说): The salary was so low, how could you…? (其实已经投降了,心理还有些不服气,确实是接二连三的难堪)
M: Sure, this was the salary of my first year of working, please look at the next page, it indicates what my salary was after my promotion. (然后不失时宜地加了一句)You can see that I brought all the information here just to tell you the truth. (最后一句话非常好,虽然没有实质内容,但是却表现了puma的坦诚自信,在人格上打动VO。

V: (完全投降,深呼吸,然后敲键盘,有点无奈地说)Okay, man, I will approve your VISA application, but remember to come and see me when you come back to China. (不仅投降了,还对这个年轻人有了些好感)
M: (心平气和地说)Sure, thank you, sir. Actually, we might meet next summer when I come back for my internship.然后就等着我的小黄条,但是…. (非常出色,最后一分钟也没放弃警惕!还提自己会回来做internship!

V: I apologize that there are some error with the SEVIS system, it is not common, but I am afraid that you might have to wait for our phone call and then to pick up your VISA the other day.
M: It is all right, thanks and have a nice weekend!

至此,耗时近20分钟,我已经心憔力瘁了。但是还是很开心,终于可以面对父母、老婆和XDJM的支持和关心了!

多么精彩而理直气壮的答辩!整个interview过程九曲八折,这里我们可以清晰看到puma是如何出色地表现自己明确的学习目的,以及与VO斗志斗勇的过程。运气决定了很多人的命运,但是对于puma这样优秀的人,坏运气也耐他不得。

郑重提示:签证十谈所涉及的任何原则都会有特例,个案不能说明规则的不存在。同时,也非常欢迎广大CDer给予纠正和补充, 让我们的十谈对签友更有指导意义!

为了让留学签证十谈更简短清晰,将初次接触签证所需要知道的签证基本常识做成附录。
《签证十谈》附录——签证基础:
https://www.chasedream.com/show.aspx?id=1738&cid=32

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